2. Who is Credence really? That’s literally where Fantastic Beasts 2 ends, and you may have some questions. Everyone figured it out already. It makes sense. Fantastic Beasts 2 is set in 1927. Maybe Grindelwald was lying? I believe that, if this is the case, Kendra must have had an affair and given birth to Credence; while Albus and Aberforth were away at school, Ariana was the only one around to discover the secret, and without her brothers around to calm her, she killed her mother by accident. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Okay, but then, does he just pull the name Aurelius out of his ass? Creedance is just a random child with an Obscurus, and Grindelwald needed something more powerful than himself and Albus to try to defeat him. If Credence was a consequent of the blood pact, then he could be considered Dumbledore’s flesh and blood and from that perspective, his “brother.” And he would also be Grindelwald’s flesh and blood as well. OK this had me laughing for a while. He wouldn't tell Creedance because the emotional drama of him believing he is a Dumbledore will give Creedance even more power. However, Aurelius is an entirely new Dumbledore, and it’s hard to imagine how on earth he could even be distantly Anyway, I don't want to go into who the father might be as it will all be explained in the sequel but this is my theory on how it's going to play out. Because of this, the Pheonix is drawn to Creedance because of him hosting a part of Ariana. This doesn't make sense. In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindlewald, it's theoretically possible that Gellert Grindelwald lied to Credence Barebone about being Aurelius Dumbledore. By nature, the Obscurus takes on properties of its host, essentially becoming part of them. I also seriously doubt Kendra could have gotten pregnant in time with locals like Bathilda Bagshot noticing; surely this tidbit would have been included in Rita Skeeter's scathing biography of Albus. Harry's kid doesn't have a scar on his forehead because he inherited the scar-on-the-forehead gene from his dad, because that's not how GD genetics work. Fantastic Beasts Theory: Credence ISN'T A [SPOILER] In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Gellert Grindelwald could actually be lying to Credence Barebone about his supposed true identity. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Anyway, for the sake of the series and the fandom I hope the Credence is Dumbledore thing if just Grindelwald bulshit. At most he thinks he lost it in the chaos. That means either he knows Albus had a brother by the name of Aurelius or he just made the whole thing up. Or are you just making fun of Aberforth’s affinity with goats??? Whoopdie-do! I dunno, maybe Rowling will try to introduce some contrived explanation to make Credence Ariana's son somehow - maybe make her an Obscurial, with him being a part of her that broke off (although wouldn't that make him some kind of Horcrux? So for Kendra, we have a very short time frame. Grindelwald is lying completely to Creedance, and is using his immense, uncontrollable power to try to take out Albus. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} I love u/scapetti's theory, as I too have been trying to remind people Credence could be a cousin or some such. I seriously doubt Percival would have remarried - everything he did, he did for the safety of his family, and he could have easily told the truth about Ariana's situation and gotten a reduced sentence. Which means that it doesn't seem possible is Credence/Aurelius is Dumbledore's brother. Aurelius Dumbledore, as Grindelwald names him. 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